June 10, 2008 - 4:36pm

AZ-1 field discusses environment; Hay a no-show

R to L: Titla, Kirkpatrick, Maupin, Shanker, Korn, BrownR to L: Titla, Kirkpatrick, Maupin, Shanker, Korn, Brown

CAMP VERDE -- The Congressional Candidate Forum on the Future of Arizona's Natural Resources brought out most of the AZ-1 field, where the candidates who showed up navigated their way through a proving ground of environmental questions. The whole panel was in agreement on the need for renewable energy investment, even if not all saw a consensus on the fact of global climate change. The biggest question of the afternoon wasn't asked by the moderator, however - it was "where is Sydney Hay?"

The seven participants included Democrats Jeffrey Brown, Ann Kirkpatrick, Howard Shanker and Mary Kim Titla, Republicans Tom Hansen and Preston Korn, and independent Brent Maupin. Two other Republicans who filed, Sandra Livingstone and Barry Hall, declined to participate.

However, Sydney Hay, who has been embraced by the Republican establishment, including the state party and numerous Republican state legislators and members of Congress, did not show up. Audience members and press instead received a letter from Hay that apologized for her absence but gave no explanation.

"Please accept my apology for missing today's forum," read the letter. 

"As you know, the nearly 60,000 square miles of Arizona's First District, and the myriad of important events therein, make it difficult to be all the places that I would like to be on any given day. Today, a conflict has arisen which makes it impossible for me to be with you."

Trish Rensink, who organized the forum on behalf of the Arizona Wildlife Federation and a host of other environmental organizations, said Hay had confirmed she would be there in March when the invitation was first extended, and, as recently as "a few weeks ago," was given a list of topics that might be discussed.

Rensink said the Hay campaign did not call to cancel, and offered no explanation of what Hay was doing instead.

"It was a surprise when she didn't show up," said Rensink.

Though the event was held Sunday, PolitickerAZ.com wanted to give Sydney Hay the chance to answer some of the questions presented to the panel, and the Hay campaign expressed interest in responding. However, despite follow-up requests, Hay has still not given a reason for her absence nor signaled a further desire to give her responses to the issues.       

For the candidates who did attend the panel, the discussion brought to light interesting points of concurrence and departure.

One of the biggest flashpoints was over the existence of global climate change. Preston Korn said on the topic, "From what I know right now, we don't have consensus in scientific community. So we must first agree in the scientific community on the causes and effects before we heavily tax or spend taxpayers' money." He did however state he wanted to diminish the nation's reliance on fossil fuels and invest in renewable technologies.

Jeffrey Brown delivered a differing opinion head-on:

"Contrary to what I've heard here at the panel, I don't think the jury is out on global climate change. I would forcefully disagree with that. Every respected scientist and respected scientific organization has said climate change is a reality."

Only Brent Maupin had actually joined Korn in questioning the validity of humans as a factor in global climate change, and in identifying climate change as an imminent threat. Attorney Howard Shanker, who has worked on numerous environmental cases, called its mitigation "one of the most pressing needs we have as a nation."

Tom Hansen took a position usually ascribed to Democrats more than Republicans, saying it is the "responsibility of the federal government to develop... legislation to control the growth of carbon and greenhouse gasses." Hansen declared he has "developed more renewable energy than any other individual in the state of Arizona," and touted the Solar Grand Plan, which seeks to transform Arizona into the "Middle East of solar energy."

When it came time to discuss specific plans of action on climate change, all candidates favored either extending the Investment Tax Credit, which is currently locked up in congressional procedure and expires at the end of the year, or providing tax incentives and government investments in research and development.

The only time the discussion was interrupted by spontaneous applause was when Brent Maupin tearfully discussed his best friend's son, who returned from Iraq with post-traumatic stress disorder. Maupin linked energy independence with ending the Iraq War.

"We've got to get out of the Middle East, and the answer is alternative fuel," said Maupin. "It's tax incentives, it's monetary policies guaranteeing loans with low interest, and it's public utilities supporting programs for solar and wind. It's essential, it's how we get out of Iraq, it's how we get out of the war, and it's how we become responsible."

One other area where the candidates diverged was on mining at the Grand Canyon. The Democrats and Maupin took the line that more clean-up needed to be employed at the Grand Canyon, and the Democratic field expressed opposition to increased uranium mining around the national park.

However, Tom Hansen said if there are economic benefits to be derived, mining around the park "shouldn't be off-limits." Preston Korn maintained that new technology would reduce the environmental impact of mining. "Are we still using 8-track tapes?" he asked.

It is speculated that it was questions related to mining that made Hay decide against attending the event, but again, the campaign has not said why Hay did not show up. Hay is the president of the Arizona Mining Association, which lobbies on behalf of mining companies.

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07/10/08 4:51 am

Past president of the


Past president of the National Academy of Science Dr. Fred Seitz noted in the Wall Street Journal 1996 (http://tinyurl.com/2w2ru9), serious problems with the Third Assessment Report (TAR), by the International Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). A second brief IPCC document entitled the Summary for Policy Makers (SPM), did not match what the hundreds of scientists had stated in the TAR. The SPM had misrepresented what the scientists had said without their knowledge or approval.
Dr. Seitz wrote: “This IPCC report, like all others, is held in such high regard largely because it has been peer-reviewed. That is, it has been read, discussed, modified and approved by an international body of experts. These scientists have laid their reputations on the line. But this report is not what it appears to be -- it is not the version that was approved by the contributing scientists listed on the title page. In my more than 60 years as a member of the American scientific community, including service as president of both the National Academy of Sciences and the American Physical Society, I have never witnessed a more disturbing corruption of the peer-review process than the events that led to this IPCC report.”

Notes on the above: The above was taken from a Hawaii Reporter column written by Michael Fox, PhD. To read the article in full, check out the Hawaii Report website.

06/13/08 2:27 pm

Yep, what a field


And it's an interesting field.

I thought another post answered the climate change debate:
"Read the story here, http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?print=yes&id=26588

More than 31,000 U.S. scientists have signed a petition rejecting the claims that human release of greenhouse gases is damaging our climate -- see www.petitionproject.org"

The fact is climate ALWAYS changes. Mars is warming and there are no cars, nor humans, on Mars. So, apparently they are right to question what the cause of climate change is. But apparently you,"on their trail," know better.

Whatever the cause isn't the debate here, the debate is who will best represent CD1 and at this point, though it is early, and even though I am a Republican, I am taking a serious look at Maupin. Let's see how he hold up under the pressure of the Fall campaign and how good his outside help is.

06/12/08 4:58 pm

Wow what a field of


Wow what a field of candidates! i cant believe some are still questioning the science behind climate change, kudos to jeffrey brown for standing up and telling it like it is. This guy has guts and integrity give him a chance! Vote for Jeffrey! he's not afraid and is the right choice for CD1

06/12/08 11:39 am

Not today, said Hay.


Mapquest.com

I suggest you use it. The distance from Munds Park to Camp Verde is a mere 38 miles and about the same in travel time. The 60K mile comment was self serving. The distance from my house to the poll is less. Count on my vote for you as a no show too.

06/11/08 10:13 pm

Maupin, Shanker, Korn, Hansen, Titla and others


Finally a real race in CD1 after years of Republicans and the courtroom bound Renzi. BTW, can you identify the forum candidate who was quoted June 9 in an article earlier this week? I just read it after googling because of Fox and Joe's comments.

"$1 billion a day are going to foreign countries for oil. Achieving energy independence can and must be done. In Tennessee and Oklahoma they are leading the way in production of biofuels with non-food items. In Massachusetts MIT is leading the way in exploring new materials and systems that could dramatically accelerate the availability of solar energy. Woodchips from New York State are being shipped from the port in Newark, NJ in the first ever American based trial shipments of woodchips for power generation to Germany. New wood biomass plants are coming on-line throughout Europe at a rapid pace."

"Americans have always risen to the challenge. Now it's time for Americans to set aside their partisan differences and get to work with meeting the challenge of achieving energy independence."

It was Maupin. Does this sound like a global warming head-in-sand type? Come on, Fox and Joe, get off the Party Train and let's have an intelligent dialogue here. Maupin and Hansen, as engineers, are the two with science and math backgrounds, fields of study underutilized by Americans. All the other candidates continue to mouth Party-gate platforms, and 15-second soundbite TV beliefs, not Maupin. (Check out MIT think tanks on global warming; not cap and trade lobbyists.) Maupin made it quite clear during the forum, that whatever is global warmings cause, our country must deal with its effect, and deal with it now. (Another political chicken and egg discussion that keeps this country from taking action?) Maupin said it was our personal responsibility to handle it. By the way, Maupin was the only candidate who received applause at any time during the forum, and he received it twice. Research has shown that solar and wind have engineering issues to overcome before being viable alternatives. Check out the Fossil Creek question. It was the question everyone else didn't know, or gave weak cover answers for not knowing, and Maupin tossed out the legislative information and discussed in depth and detail Fossil Creek issues. So maybe it's time to realize that Evan Brown did a good job of covering the forum in this article, and some of the posted "commentators" are doing a good job of trying to get face-time for candidates who did not earn it themselves. Seems to me that Maupin is making headlines, while others are making lines to the head. Keep up the good work, Evan.

06/11/08 9:36 pm

Other candidates didn't deliver


The reason Kirkpatrick didn't get coverage, is that she didn't do her homework. It was obvious. How many "for the children" answers cover questions that you don't have a clue about the answer? Ask Ann. And she had months to prepare. Embarrassing. As for Mary Kim Titla, she did an okay job. Not her strength either, but she tried. Better than Kirkpatrick who didn't try at all.

06/11/08 9:02 pm

surprise


I usually enjoy your reporting, but I was surprised that your report on this debate ignored the two most prominent candidates who were present, Ann Kirkpatrick and Mary Kim Titla. I would have liked to hear what they had to say on the issues.

06/11/08 3:57 pm

31,000 scientists agree with Maupin and Korn


Read the story here, http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?print=yes&id=26588

More than 31,000 U.S. scientists have signed a petition rejecting the claims that human release of greenhouse gases is damaging our climate -- see www.petitionproject.org

Just an open minded observer who still finds it amazing that a non-politician held his own with all those seasoned politicians.

06/11/08 1:02 pm

Maupin Can Quit Now


Maupin is not any different than any of the nay-sayers on global warming. Even if we are wrong, why take the chance. Go home Maupin and start reading facts instead of Fox soundbites.

06/11/08 12:56 pm

Ann and Mary Kim are so out


Ann and Mary Kim are so out of touch with what we are facing as a state and as a nation it is pitiful. Jeffery Brown is passionate, but could never properly represent this district. The Republican candidates are in the dark ages and Maupin is no different. That leaves Howard Shanker. How refreshing to actually listen to someone who knows what they are talking about and has the ability to think for themselves. My vote goes to Howard Shanker. Get on board the Howard Express.

06/11/08 12:54 pm

Maupin-NO-Howard-Yes


Maupin sides with Corn that humans are not the cause? Give me a break! So typical. Let's study it some more. Let's wait and see. Let's stick our heads in the sand and it will all go away.
We need real change. We don't need more of the same. With Howard Shanker you get passion, honesty, integrity, compassion, intelligence, experience, and most of all, you get someone who cares about AZ, the environment, this country, and our future. He understands the impact we have and how alternate energy will help reduce the impact we have. We WILL NEVER ELIMINATE our dependence on foreign oil. But, with the increasing use of fossil fuels by China and other fast developing countries, we are in a competitive race for fossil fuels. The only alternative is to lessen our need for oil. Hey, solar, hydrogen, and wind energy can give us this while creating sustainable jobs. Who is behind these concepts? Howard Shanker. He is the one for Arizona Congressional District One. Why waste a vote on anyone less?

06/11/08 12:51 pm

Trying to find the right candidate


How disgraceful to hear candidates for this office suggesting that there is "disagreement" in the scientific community on humans as a cause of climate change. There is NO disagreement among scientists. Count Maupin and Korn out of this race-- it's too serious of an issue to deny. It's also upsetting that Sydney Hay couldn't even offer a reason for not showing up-- especially after RSVPing.
There's no mention of some of the other candidates in this article. Did Titla and Kirkpatrick say nothing noteworthy? I've been keeping my ears open to hear more about each of those candidates, but thusfar haven't heard anything impressive about either.

06/11/08 9:46 am

Maupin


Amazing an independent candidate who does better than the "seasoned" politicians. Based on what I've seen on this site and a couple of articles about him I think he just might pull this off. Go Maupin!

06/10/08 11:11 pm

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